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(10:28:46 AM) Daien42 has entered the room.
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(10:37:22 AM) Yamatoblaze has entered the room.
Daien42 (10:52:13 AM): RP?
Yamatoblaze (10:53:38 AM): Why not?
(10:54:27 AM) Sexc0pter has entered the room.
Daien42 (10:54:41 AM): OFF COURSE.
(10:54:49 AM) ValkyrieShan has left the room.
(10:55:04 AM) ValkyrieShan has entered the room.
Sexc0pter (10:55:06 AM): WTF everyone.
Sexc0pter (10:55:38 AM): Especially Shan.
ValkyrieShan (10:55:45 AM): Hi!
Yamatoblaze (10:56:00 AM): WTF right back at you.
Sexc0pter (10:57:33 AM): Anything happening, or can I tell there isn't by the lack of () around OOC comments?
Yamatoblaze (10:58:17 AM): That depends on how much intelligence you credit yourself with.
Sexc0pter (10:59:26 AM): Actually, quite a lot.
Sexc0pter (10:59:35 AM): So who or what are we waiting for?
Yamatoblaze (11:00:03 AM): The grand poobah.
Yamatoblaze (11:00:17 AM): And Ragnarok, respectively.
Daien42 (11:01:15 AM): Sure.
Daien42 (11:01:17 AM): <.< >.>
Daien42 (11:01:26 AM): Grand Poobah: I am glad I take the first place, humans.
ValkyrieShan (11:02:52 AM): Well, I'm going to be tweaking my sheet, so igive me a shout if something comes up.
ValkyrieShan (11:02:57 AM): *-i
Daien42 (11:18:51 AM): I WANNA RP!
Daien42 (11:19:17 AM): Really.
ValkyrieShan (11:19:39 AM): Hooo boy. Darren. XP
Daien42 (11:21:26 AM): <.< >.> OFF COURSE.
Daien42 (11:21:29 AM): Who else?
Yamatoblaze (11:22:08 AM): I have things I'd rather be doing right now.
Daien42 (11:22:56 AM): Ghey..
Yamatoblaze (11:34:44 AM): Hn... I CAN RP if you really want me to.
Daien42 (11:44:29 AM): :(
Yamatoblaze (11:48:20 AM): >.>
Sexc0pter (11:49:35 AM): RP starting?
Sexc0pter (11:50:08 AM): *chooses Kenki*
Daien42 (11:58:27 AM): :(
ValkyrieShan (11:58:44 AM): :( yourself.
Daien42 (12:00:29 PM): NO, YOU.
Yamatoblaze (12:01:22 PM): YOURSELF!
(12:06:07 PM) PsychoWarden2002 has entered the room.
Daien42 (12:06:40 PM): ASS.
Daien42 (12:06:47 PM): I mean... Um, hey Phil.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:07:04 PM): BLOOG.
Sexc0pter (12:07:19 PM): WTF Will.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:12:03 PM): RP?
Sexc0pter (12:12:23 PM): Yes, let's.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:17:10 PM): Dead room.
Sexc0pter (12:17:29 PM): Castle or what?
Yamatoblaze (12:17:36 PM): *plotting an RP*
PsychoWarden2002 (12:18:27 PM): I'd personally prefer a CI RP that isn't all blah blah war blah blah.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:18:44 PM): The war eliminates the possibility for good CI.
Yamatoblaze (12:18:57 PM): Then your best bet is one that's not in Doma, or set before the war.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:21:28 PM): Right.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:22:29 PM): Phil considers doing other things. :[
Yamatoblaze (12:22:58 PM): *already doing other things, ojes*
PsychoWarden2002 (12:35:34 PM): Blarg. >.<;
(12:37:46 PM) DarkLordKelne has entered the room.
Sexc0pter (12:42:04 PM): WTF Kelne.
DarkLordKelne (12:42:19 PM): WTF, Zem. Dead, I see.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:42:55 PM): OOC Will: I AM NOT FIGHTING AGAIN UNTIL I GET SOME DAMN SEX. :{
Daien42 (12:42:59 PM): Also, Dan's current project...
Daien42 (12:43:03 PM): IS TO INTEGRATE THE WAR INTO 2nd GEN.
Sexc0pter (12:43:32 PM): OOC Sable: SO BE IT.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:43:42 PM): Dan, we can't do that until the war's done anyway.
Daien42 (12:44:00 PM): I'm just doing so far. And so far, it's feasible.
Yamatoblaze (12:44:02 PM): We can't do that until WELL AFTER the war's done.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:44:04 PM): Even though we already know who it's going to be that kill Malachias. >.<;
DarkLordKelne (12:44:29 PM): Kyra?
PsychoWarden2002 (12:44:34 PM): Nope.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:44:42 PM): The people Malachias killed before the war began.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:44:57 PM): The people who Will SHOULD HAVE been a part of, but Adam BSed a reason for him not to die.
Sexc0pter (12:45:34 PM): Why did he not die?
PsychoWarden2002 (12:45:44 PM): Because Adam didn't have someone go to kill him.
Daien42 (12:46:03 PM): Didn't he ask you, Adam?
DarkLordKelne (12:46:04 PM): Let me guess - 'as long as you all live'?
Daien42 (12:46:07 PM): *Phil
PsychoWarden2002 (12:46:13 PM): No, he didn't. Not once.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:46:19 PM): If he had asked, I would've agreed.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:46:34 PM): And yes, Kelne.
Yamatoblaze (12:46:35 PM): One of the reasons I'm not enjoying this war is that is because it's too predetermined. I hope you intend to be more flexible with yours, Dan.
Daien42 (12:47:07 PM): Ross: Why didn't I want to do it immediately, again? >.>
Yamatoblaze (12:47:11 PM): *- is because
Idran1701 (12:47:39 PM): Wasn't the excuse Ayra said Will was dead inside, or something like that?
Yamatoblaze (12:47:46 PM): Because another war so soon would be bloody overkill, especially as this one is giving me more headaches than it's entertaining me.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:47:55 PM): Right, Idran.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:48:00 PM): Which was complete and utter bullshit.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:51:12 PM): *sighs*
Daien42 (12:51:14 PM): Ross: What I meant is, WHY was the war taking so long? BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF MANY POSSIBILITIES.
Yamatoblaze (12:51:50 PM): WHICH YOU SHOULDN'T DO. Just react as it happens, rather than trying to pre-orchestrate everything.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:51:51 PM): Now the Mallian War's lost its original allure to many people, because everyone's starting to realize how biased towards certain characters it is.
Daien42 (12:51:55 PM): I have reports Adam railroaded/godmoded heavily in the battles. I need confirms or denial.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:52:00 PM): He did.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:52:07 PM): THIRTY ZOMBIE DRAGONS.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:52:12 PM): THAT ALL BREATHED FIRE.
Daien42 (12:52:14 PM): <.< ...
Daien42 (12:52:32 PM): LOAKE'S AIRSHIPS, THAT HAD WATER MAGES. WITH HOLY ARROW EQUIPPED CROSSBOWMEN.
DarkLordKelne (12:52:33 PM): The bit that annoys me is that I'm absolutely certain that the main action will progress inwards following the same core group of characters.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:52:42 PM): And no matter what happened, the Doman forces were ALWAYS being pushed back.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:52:53 PM): The ONLY reason Hyral Castle didn't fall was because AYA showed up.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:53:13 PM): Adam CONSTANTLY had more and more things pop up to take out Doman troops.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:54:02 PM): And Kelne: No kidding.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:54:27 PM): I'm thinking Adam needs to be spoken to about this.
Yamatoblaze (12:54:31 PM): *considering having the wardens disappearing out of the conflict, seeing as they won't get to do anything worthwhile anyway, and plots a somewhat unorthodox way to do it*
Daien42 (12:54:40 PM): And to me, the Plague Knight deal is just a way of keeping the IRF off of Malachias.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:54:59 PM): Because if the ENTIRE WAR becomes this clique-centered, then I'm going to be the leader of the "THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN" forces.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:55:09 PM): I'm actually starting to think Pervy was right, now. >.<;
Daien42 (12:55:22 PM): Dude, Pervy WAS right on some aspects.
DarkLordKelne (12:55:39 PM): *nod* I mean, seriously, what are the odds that Griff and co are just going to leave Mally alone?
Daien42 (12:56:56 PM): You know what'd be amusing?
Daien42 (12:57:04 PM): Kate makes the Plague Knight RP.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:57:16 PM): The Plague Knights were cool on their own.
Daien42 (12:57:23 PM): They beat them... And instead of killing them, tell them they'll spare them if they ally against Malachias. >.>
PsychoWarden2002 (12:57:36 PM): But now that they're aligned with Mally, I think this is just really sad.
Daien42 (12:57:55 PM): <.< Malachias is stupid.
Daien42 (12:57:59 PM): Proof: X'zaril.
DarkLordKelne (12:58:07 PM): How exactly is Mally promoting the spread of disease?
Yamatoblaze (12:58:11 PM): What would amuse ME would be if the players all did their level best to walk right out of the plot of the RP, and see how badly Kate BSes to keep them in it.
Sexc0pter (12:58:30 PM): This war makes me want to play 2nd gen, and I don't even have any characters in it.
Yamatoblaze (12:58:40 PM): When exactly did X'zaril become a general, by the by?
PsychoWarden2002 (12:58:46 PM): When he showed up in Riva.
Yamatoblaze (12:59:02 PM): When was that? OOCly, I mean.
PsychoWarden2002 (12:59:09 PM): A week and a half ago?
Daien42 (12:59:18 PM): Roughly.
Daien42 (1:00:18 PM): Ross: That's proof that Malachias is stupid.
Daien42 (1:00:31 PM): Ross: YOU DON'T ALLY YOURSELF WITH A POWER-CRAZED EX-MIND FLAYER LICH.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:00:37 PM): EVER.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:00:52 PM): The war was a good idea in the beginning.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:01:00 PM): But it's become too biased towards Adam's best pals.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:01:23 PM): As Pervy said: If Brian were running it, I'd have less of a problem with it.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:01:34 PM): Brian wouldn't be so ridiculously biased and self-centered.
Yamatoblaze (1:03:30 PM): Well, around about when X'zaril became General Rupert approached Malachias with the offer of indirect aid from the god who stole Warden's power in exchange for the rank of General for Rupert. He didn't get it.
Sexc0pter (1:03:55 PM): And who plays X'zaril?
PsychoWarden2002 (1:03:58 PM): Who RPs Xzar'il again?
PsychoWarden2002 (1:04:03 PM): My head.
Yamatoblaze (1:04:26 PM): Isn't it Brian? *forgets, as has never encountered the character*
Daien42 (1:04:36 PM): Yes, Brian.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:04:54 PM): Figures.
Yamatoblaze (1:06:24 PM): I don't know, the war just isn't entertaining, and all that's been said is ringing true. I think I'm going to withdraw as many characters as I can from it and just RP second gen/whatever for the duration.
Daien42 (1:06:46 PM): Nah, Ross. 'tjust make it worse.
Yamatoblaze (1:06:56 PM): And I'm definitely going to be on the "this is not canon" camp.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:06:59 PM): Keep them in for now.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:07:19 PM): If this continues, I want them to be mad that they wasted everyone's time. >:]
Daien42 (1:07:22 PM): Fuck, "not cannon" would solve me a lot of problem.
Yamatoblaze (1:07:25 PM): Fine, I'll keep them in, but they'll be practically NPCs anyhoo.
Daien42 (1:07:40 PM): *canon
DarkLordKelne (1:07:41 PM): Which is a pity, as I quite like the idea of that fic in Kelne's background.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:08:15 PM): Maybe we should hold an intervention?
PsychoWarden2002 (1:08:30 PM): Telling Adam that the war needs more opening up?
DarkLordKelne (1:09:31 PM): I think the major thing to do would be to set forth clearly defined points where the plot could be derailed with sufficient effort.
Yamatoblaze (1:09:44 PM): You know what'll happen then is that he'll give everyone else some other NPC to fight while everything he's already planned occurs as scheduled.
DarkLordKelne (1:10:33 PM): I have no problem with that. But if the NPC is completely annihilated, I'd expect the perpetrators to get a shot at Malachias or someone else important.
Daien42 (1:12:28 PM): I mean, yeesh.
Daien42 (1:12:39 PM): THEY EVEN DIDN'T LET THE PEOPLE AT CASTLE HYRAL get their moment of glory.
(1:12:40 PM) XStrike8 has entered the room.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:12:58 PM): They didn't.
Yamatoblaze (1:13:15 PM): *decides that he may still pull some of the wardens out, as he has an interesting idea he might want to pursue with them*
PsychoWarden2002 (1:13:18 PM): And Adam did everything he could to COMPLETELY humiliate Will, too.
DarkLordKelne (1:13:48 PM): No. Aya's revenge on Scourge is all very well, but it wasn't exactly dramatic.
Yamatoblaze (1:13:54 PM): Let's not make this discussion personal, Phil.
Daien42 (1:14:00 PM): Um, Kelne.
Daien42 (1:14:14 PM): They used it just to make Aya look good.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:14:23 PM): And to ruin the reputation of the current ORF.
Daien42 (1:14:40 PM): He didn't even NUMBER the Undead Legion!
Daien42 (1:14:46 PM): So he can just say "Oh, there are more..."
PsychoWarden2002 (1:14:48 PM): Adam picked the perfect time to hold it, so that the ORF was made to look like incompetant idiots.
Daien42 (1:14:49 PM): "Yes, and more."
Daien42 (1:14:51 PM): "And more."
Yamatoblaze (1:15:23 PM): Personally, I was never under the impression Dhargun was THAT good a necromancer.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:15:27 PM): He wasn't.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:15:43 PM): Also, I noticed something was wrong as soon as Dhargun got up from Will kicking him in the neck.
Daien42 (1:16:08 PM): He also CONVENIENTLY forgot the fact all resistance scouts were NOT scouting or skirmishing.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:16:09 PM): And then when Will blew his fucking TORSO OFF...
PsychoWarden2002 (1:16:31 PM): I could've had Will cut Dhargun's head off while he was down, too. But I didn't. XD
Yamatoblaze (1:16:38 PM): I mean, sure it turned out to be Scourge, but Dhargun's still elsewhere with who knows how many other undead he suddenly knows how to control.
Yamatoblaze (1:20:02 PM): OKAY, who wants to RP before the war, hmm? We can start another chat. Or we could do it in this one just to be nonconformist. Your choice. :D
ValkyrieShan (1:20:44 PM): :D
Sexc0pter (1:22:08 PM): We can do it in this one.
Yamatoblaze (1:23:49 PM): I'm not sensing too much enthusiasm, here. :{
PsychoWarden2002 (1:24:05 PM): I'm currently doing other things.
Sexc0pter (1:24:10 PM): Or maybe we could do 2nd gen where the war didn't happen.
Daien42 (1:24:29 PM): SHUSH.
Daien42 (1:24:35 PM): I will not have more discrepancies in 2nd Gen. >.<
Yamatoblaze (1:24:44 PM): ALL 2nd gen should be where the war didn't happen, I think.
Daien42 (1:24:47 PM): If the war is voted canon, it will be factored...
Daien42 (1:24:50 PM): Oh holy...
XStrike8 (1:24:50 PM): Actually, Zem...
XStrike8 (1:25:03 PM): Second Gen is AU... either way the war doesn't happen, I'm told.
Yamatoblaze (1:25:27 PM): That's what I meant, too.
Daien42 (1:25:29 PM): YOU ARE TOLD WRONG, FOR FUCK'S SAKE! >_< STOP FUCKING 2ND GEN UP!
Daien42 (1:25:44 PM): *sigh* You're making 2nd Gen lose its POINT.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:25:46 PM): D's already mad at the control of Second Gen that Pervy's taken, huh?
XStrike8 (1:25:47 PM): ...
Yamatoblaze (1:25:48 PM): Dan, shut up, go away, and cool down.
Daien42 (1:26:05 PM): Right, that was a sudden explosion. I'm cool now.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:26:08 PM): My problem with Second Gen is that it's too Dating-Sim-ish.
Yamatoblaze (1:26:10 PM): Then come back and make your point in a calm collected manner.
Yamatoblaze (1:26:15 PM): Good.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:26:24 PM): Seriously, it seems to be almost entirely about characters hooking up.
Daien42 (1:26:29 PM): 2nd Gen is meant to be related to 1st Gen. Phil, you're an idiot.
XStrike8 (1:26:31 PM): My problem is people that always talk about what other things problems are and don't do their best to correct this.
Sexc0pter (1:26:35 PM): Or maybe we could do 0th gen.
Daien42 (1:26:39 PM): >.> And making an uninformed opinion.
Sexc0pter (1:26:40 PM): :D
Daien42 (1:26:46 PM): ... Sheesh, let me finish.
XStrike8 (1:26:57 PM): *listens*
Daien42 (1:27:04 PM): Now, the idea is ... That 2nd Gen IS SUPPOSED TO BE RELATED TO 1ST GEN. That's the whole POINT of it.
Daien42 (1:27:14 PM): How did 1st Gen things affect them 20 years later?
Daien42 (1:27:33 PM): What about the grown-up children? That's the entire 2nd Gen POINT.
Sexc0pter (1:27:37 PM): But the problem with doing that is that why did none of them talk about the war that happened 20 years ago before the war was proposed?
Sexc0pter (1:27:59 PM): And things that haven't happened in 2nd gen that have in 1st, like Will breaking up with Jenna, and stuff like that.
Daien42 (1:28:01 PM): Because they didn't.
Daien42 (1:28:11 PM): And Will did break up with Jenna in 2nd Gen.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:28:12 PM): Actually, I believe Will and Jen DID cut it off in Second Gen.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:28:19 PM): But it was for a less blatantly assholish reason.
Sexc0pter (1:28:25 PM): But not in the traumatic way that happened in 1st.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:28:32 PM): Right.
Daien42 (1:28:38 PM): ... Oh come on.
Daien42 (1:28:41 PM): It's 20 years later.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:28:51 PM): Will in Second Gen is just sick a lot of the time.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:28:58 PM): He's not griping about the breakup anymore.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:29:06 PM): He's more concentrating on NOT DYING.
Yamatoblaze (1:29:18 PM): Well, that's not the central issue here - Dan, if the opinions of the chatters here are anything to go by, this war WILL NOT become canon.
XStrike8 (1:29:22 PM): ... when did this conversation suddenly become "Will Will", if I may ask?
DarkLordKelne (1:29:30 PM): The thing about retroactively adjusting things in 2nd gen is it starts to clash with the characters' background.
Yamatoblaze (1:29:35 PM): Therefore until it DOES become canon, we should assume that IT ISN'T.
Daien42 (1:29:48 PM): Kelne: How? O_o
PsychoWarden2002 (1:29:50 PM): XD at Shaun. Good point.
Sexc0pter (1:30:26 PM): The main problem with 2nd gen is that it's trying to build a structure on foundation of Jello.
DarkLordKelne (1:30:34 PM): How does a huge war clash with established backgrounds? How doesn't it?
Daien42 (1:30:49 PM): Kelne, fair enough. But it's easily duct taped.
Yamatoblaze (1:31:01 PM): Kelne's right - a war changes people.
Daien42 (1:31:15 PM): ... 20 years later, FFS. >.>;
Sexc0pter (1:31:16 PM): Like, for example, Hakaril's not dead in 2nd gen.
Daien42 (1:31:25 PM): He probably WON'T be come 20 years later! >.<
Daien42 (1:31:30 PM): *facepalms*
Yamatoblaze (1:31:31 PM): Have you ever met a WW2 veteran, Dan?
XStrike8 (1:31:32 PM): D: Duct taped very loosely, I might add.
ValkyrieShan (1:31:47 PM): *facepalms with Dan*
Daien42 (1:31:57 PM): Ross: This is not WW2. >.> And the characters haven't lived in trenches in the same situations.
Daien42 (1:32:18 PM): Shaun: YES, but if it's possible, it needs to be duct taped! Or 2nd Gen's point is lost.
Yamatoblaze (1:32:21 PM): This is a war WITH DAEMONS AND UNDEAD, that's probably worse.
XStrike8 (1:32:29 PM): D: How? Why?
Daien42 (1:32:40 PM): >.< Oh FFS, were you even listening?
XStrike8 (1:32:42 PM): D: You realize that what you're asking is essentially rewrite one OR the other part entirely.
XStrike8 (1:33:01 PM): Yes, that IS what you said, but do you realize what that MEANS?
Sexc0pter (1:33:14 PM): Which makes all RPs done before in 2nd gen invalid.
XStrike8 (1:33:24 PM): OR makes the war itself invalid.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:33:32 PM): YAY! WE GET TO HIT THE RESET BUTTON ON SECOND GEN! :D!
PsychoWarden2002 (1:33:47 PM): *scampers off to hit the shiny red button*
Daien42 (1:33:50 PM): No, Phil.
Daien42 (1:33:57 PM): Okay, people.
Daien42 (1:34:01 PM): MOST CHARS WERE AWAY.
Daien42 (1:34:04 PM): That much is problem solved.
PsychoWarden2002 (1:34:15 PM): *pushes the button, which blows him up subsequently* Ow.
XStrike8 (1:34:19 PM): ... Dia was away from the Jade Dragon, Kilra wasn't in town...
XStrike8 (1:34:28 PM): D, you realize how much duct taping THAT EXCUSE ALONE takes?
Daien42 (1:34:33 PM): No, no!
Daien42 (1:34:41 PM): I mean...
Daien42 (1:35:04 PM): Most characters DID flee Doma.
ValkyrieShan (1:35:18 PM): WIMPS.