PapatymisonN: Emilio Estevez.
Lithaladhwen: Ah.
Lithaladhwen: Quite.
PapatymisonN: Also: I've downgraded to "checking in" on the game.
PapatymisonN: I'll start watching again if we tie it up.
Lithaladhwen: *nod*
PapatymisonN: Besides, House is FAR more amusing.
PapatymisonN: ... you're one of the ones who doesn't watch TV. I lose track of who's who.
PapatymisonN: It's a medical drama about a selfcentred, pill popping head of a diagnostics team at a hospital.
PapatymisonN: His methods are ... unorthodox.
Lithaladhwen: I know what it is.
Lithaladhwen: I don't live under a rock. I just don't have a television wherever it is I actually do live.
PapatymisonN: Well, still. I never know with you "don't watch TV" types.
Lithaladhwen: I know people who watch it, and I've had it recommended to me enough damn times that I know I should watch it.
Lithaladhwen: But I don't because of apathy and the television being so far from my computer.
PapatymisonN: Well, do you know the black guy on the show?
Lithaladhwen: Nope.
Lithaladhwen: Don't know characters, alas.
PapatymisonN: Well, there's a black doctor on the show. And he's been infected with some crazy unknown disease.
PapatymisonN: He got it from some OTHER guy, who died slower than this guy did. They found out that that was because he had Legionnaire's disease AS WELL as the crazy disease.
PapatymisonN: So what did House do? ^_^
PapatymisonN: Got a vial of the disease, and tossed it into the little bio-enclosed chamber the guy was in.
Lithaladhwen: ...
Lithaladhwen: So. I was thinking.
Lithaladhwen: The Law.
PapatymisonN: The Law.
PapatymisonN: Like, the Gaeran code of laws?
Lithaladhwen: Like, Doman law.
Lithaladhwen: They have it. I know they do.
PapatymisonN: Yeah. It's... gonna be big.
Lithaladhwen: They have laws. Despite the fact that their society runs on vigilantes and mercenaries and bounty hunters....there are totally laws.
PapatymisonN: Yes there are.
PapatymisonN: There is no official document to that effect, but we've got them.
Lithaladhwen: I think common sense would suffice most of the time.
PapatymisonN: Yes. But hey, at any given time, Charles can say "The princess may marry anyone she deems worthy", or something like that.
PapatymisonN: So there's room to expand.
PapatymisonN: Imagine what they had to put in for Keepers and Protectorates...
Lithaladhwen: XD
Lithaladhwen: Thank you...Sultan of Agrabah.
Lithaladhwen: Anyawy.
Lithaladhwen: *anyway
PapatymisonN: Anyways.
Lithaladhwen: What's the Doman stance on capital punishment?
PapatymisonN: Used for treason and serial killers.
PapatymisonN: But it's USED. Where appropriate.
PapatymisonN: ... that reminds me. I need to put SKoD on trial.
Lithaladhwen: Wasn't that a really long time ago?
Lithaladhwen: The whole SKoD arc?
PapatymisonN: He's not dead. Thus the arc isn't TRULY over...
PapatymisonN: ... actually, yeah. It'd be unnecessary to have a TRIAL.
PapatymisonN: Some sort of other legal finagling would be better.
Lithaladhwen: *nod*
Lithaladhwen: I was just wondering what they do about murderers. That's all.
PapatymisonN: Yeah. Life imprisonment is standard for one lone kill.
PapatymisonN: Serials get... the axe? Yes, the axe.
PapatymisonN: Or perhaps astral disintegration... pretty much being turned to nothing.
Lithaladhwen: Astral disintegration is fun. Ripping the aura? That's functionally what that cult was going to do to Zea.
Lithaladhwen: I mean, they thought they had good reasons, but that's the gist.
Lithaladhwen: Okay. So.
Lithaladhwen: Where do they put you when they decide you're a menace to society?
PapatymisonN: Yes, more questions.
PapatymisonN: The castle dungeons.
PapatymisonN: Unsafe, I know. But it also serves as the centre for the Doman Guard.
Lithaladhwen: Yeah. There are many guards in the castle.
PapatymisonN: *nosepoke* I like that. ^^
Lithaladhwen: See, the thing is.... I have something I want to do, and I think it will be scads of fun. Only problem is I still have no idea how to fix it once I've done it.
PapatymisonN: I'm listening.
Lithaladhwen: My GM-instinct makes me not want to tell you things, but my "we should write something" instinct leads me to think that I should.
PapatymisonN: If you want, I can dump my memory of this event after this.
Lithaladhwen: I don't feel like making one of my characters essentially unplayable. Like. Forever. Or at least a long time.
Lithaladhwen: So... I don't feel like tossing anyone in jail.
PapatymisonN: And thus is the beauty of the prison break.
PapatymisonN: I'll get the tattoo needle, you get the blueprints!
Lithaladhwen: ...
Lithaladhwen: Riiiight.
Lithaladhwen: The basic idea would entail you playing Cardinal and various government officials for the purposes of fic-writing AKA two-person RP in which both play PCs and NPCs, which I'd just as soon call a fic.
PapatymisonN: Shakti?
Lithaladhwen: You betcha.
Lithaladhwen: I'd be playing Shakti and many of her informants/brothelbuddies.
Lithaladhwen: You'd take Cardinal and The Establishment.
PapatymisonN: ... did she do it?
Lithaladhwen: Hm?
Lithaladhwen: What's that?
PapatymisonN: I assume she's the one they're trying to lock up?
Lithaladhwen: Yes. Basic premise is this, and it's what Card would find out first.
Lithaladhwen: Rather normal middleclass fellow is murdered. Investigation ensues.
Lithaladhwen: This is what the guard knows, and what Cardinal would eventually find out by virtue of being in the guard.
Lithaladhwen: One. There was physical evidence at the scene that diviners used to determine some things about the killer's identity.
Lithaladhwen: Two. The guy seems to have been killed with a relatively rare school of magic. Star magic, in fact.
Lithaladhwen: Things they know about the killer: Woman. Lives down in the slums.
Lithaladhwen: So. If it was Shakti, she left some heavy tracks.
PapatymisonN: Which would make Card think she DIDN'T do it.
PapatymisonN: As he thinks better of her.
Lithaladhwen: Yeah. Eventually someone, either Cardinal or another guardsman (probably to prevent conflict of interest issues) would eventually take her in for questioning. Because really. It would be irresponsible not to do so.
PapatymisonN: He'd do it. Just because he'd at least THINK he could get the whole story out of her.
Lithaladhwen: *nod*
PapatymisonN: His first question really would be, "So, who's framing you?"
Lithaladhwen: She wouldn't discuss the issue. Her general tone would be, "Not going to say I did it. But I won't say I didn't." It really wouldn't be up for discussion.
PapatymisonN: And Card would take issue with that, but we can get into that later.
Lithaladhwen: If there were any sort of trial situation, which I'm assuming there would be if you were considering a trial for the SKoD, she'd plead no contest. Not pleading guilty, but not arguing with the prosecution.
Lithaladhwen: She knew who the guy was before he died, she fits all the info from the investigation, and she won't even say she didn't do it, despite the fact that it's really quite disappointing when your defendant won't... you know. Defend.
PapatymisonN: That'd piss off Card to no end. But then again, when does he ever understand that girl?
Lithaladhwen: So, it's a pretty easy day for the prosecution. They get to put someone away who doesn't seem to care. Definitely no remorse, which takes some of their thunder, but YOU try getting Shakti to feel remorse for anything and see how far it gets you.
PapatymisonN: Card WILL do everything in his power to get her off the hook.
Lithaladhwen: She'd tell him to stop, and she would refuse to talk to him if he kept making trouble.
PapatymisonN: ... you do realize what a HUGE fight that will create, right?
Lithaladhwen: Yes. Yes I do.
PapatymisonN: Just checking.
Lithaladhwen: Oh, no. I'm fully aware.
Lithaladhwen: But while we're outlining the plot via IM window.....
Lithaladhwen: You're cool with the distribution of labor?
PapatymisonN: Very.
Lithaladhwen: Beyond that, I've got nothing.
Lithaladhwen: I figured you'd have more ideas following my setup.
Lithaladhwen: I know what happened, of course.
Lithaladhwen: I just don't know how to make it matter.
PapatymisonN: Oh, alright. I'm... this feels like an episode of Law and Order, really.
Lithaladhwen: Alas, I don't watch that show. I guess in this situation it would have helped me.
PapatymisonN: Yeah. Mayhaps you'll want to put in the energy to watch ANY episode, as its format would provide insight...
Lithaladhwen: I read a decent amount of Doyle. Does that help?
PapatymisonN: Doyle?
Lithaladhwen: Sir Arthur Conan. Doyle.
PapatymisonN: That's what I thought. And yes. Any mystery is good.
PapatymisonN: We do, however, need to start at the end.
Lithaladhwen: Yes.
Lithaladhwen: I should probably tell you what actually happened.
PapatymisonN: That would help.
Lithaladhwen: Shakti... takes pretty good care of her informants. She places a pretty high value on trust, as you could probably imagine.
Lithaladhwen: Well, she hangs out with a lot of people who, while they're in a legal occupation... well, they don't have the best social standing.
Lithaladhwen: They may be unionized to some extent, but they don't all have that much of a voice when it comes to ...anything really. Most notably streetwalkers, who don't even have the benefit of a house to protect them.
Lithaladhwen: So... one of Shakti's informants, a streetwalker she's been talking to for a while, comes to her with the shit beaten out of her. Whoops. One of her johns was an asshole and since she has no one to defend her, she doesn't have much choice but to defend herself. She ends up killing him to save herself.
Lithaladhwen: Shakti tells her not to worry, that everything will get sorted out if she'll just trust that what Shakti is doing makes sense and not interfere.
Lithaladhwen: Shakti goes to the guy's house, scorches the hell out of it, drops a hair or two where investigators/diviners will find it, and goes home to pack her shit.
Lithaladhwen: Of course, Shakti and her streetwalker friend have a secret that no one else knows. It's one big reason why Shakti went to all this trouble for someone else.
Lithaladhwen: The woman is pregnant with some client's kid, and Shakti doesn't see any reason for her to rot in jail.
Lithaladhwen: Hell. Shakti gets locked up she'll just.... study the inmates or somethign.
Lithaladhwen: It'll be a learning experience.
Lithaladhwen: She'll write her dissertation from prison. That's her plan.
Lithaladhwen: Cardinal just needs to... not know anything that will cause him a conflict of interest.
Lithaladhwen: Honestly, she doesn't really trust him completely since he's technically part of the "authority" of this country. She figures if that's his allegiance, the least she can do is not complicate shit.
Lithaladhwen: If he minds his own business like a good guardsman, she will just... not tell him anything that will make this more complicated on his end. He's a big kid. He'll get over it.
Lithaladhwen: After a year or two she'll let him visit, once he's had time to cool off or something.
PapatymisonN: So, your desire is to have her go to jail, then?
Lithaladhwen: That's her plan.
Lithaladhwen: I think it would be amusing.
Lithaladhwen: I just don't know how to do that and have her remain playable, because I do enjoy playing her.
PapatymisonN: ... I can get her off. Or, rather, Card can.
PapatymisonN: The girl, too.
Lithaladhwen: I'm sure.
Lithaladhwen: He can do that if he wants. He just won't have any help from like...anyone.
PapatymisonN: It can get done.
Lithaladhwen: So, may I take it you're interested?
PapatymisonN: I am.
PapatymisonN: ... I can no longer maintain consciousness.
Lithaladhwen: ....
Lithaladhwen: Okay.
PapatymisonN: Were there more questions?
Lithaladhwen: We can actually probably do this via email if you want.
Lithaladhwen: That way we don't have to post to the writings forum until we're done.
PapatymisonN: Kay.
Lithaladhwen: I don't know if you want to start or if I should.
Lithaladhwen: I could probably bang out something or other, but technically The Establishment (including guard investigations) would be your turf.
Lithaladhwen: I'll just be the people you talk to, more than likely.
PapatymisonN: That sounds just right.
Lithaladhwen: So, either you can start with Cardinal finding out about shit in the guardhouse, or I can start with the same and you can take his reaction from there.
PapatymisonN: I think in true Law and Order fashion, it should start at the scene of the crime.
Lithaladhwen: Okay. Give me more.
PapatymisonN: Well, Card would arrive on the scene after some normal guards and diviners have arrived to analyze, he'd get the skinny on the situation, and then, oop, someone finds star magic, and Card had an alibi.
Lithaladhwen: 'kay.
Lithaladhwen: What then?
PapatymisonN: Then I pass the ball to you, doing Shakti-like sneaky things.
Lithaladhwen: 'kay.
PapatymisonN: ... sleep for me now?
PapatymisonN: I love so much sleep...
Lithaladhwen: Yes. Send me an email tomorrow!
Lithaladhwen: I'll reply with more story.
PapatymisonN: Sure thing.
PapatymisonN: I may bust out Yvon Corell as an investigator.
Lithaladhwen: k
PapatymisonN: night.
PapatymisonN signed off at 1:08:29 AM.